Why Not India-Pakistan Joint Issue?

By N A Mirza

Mr. Qambar Ali Zaidi is right that small countries make billions of dollars in foreign exchange by issuing beautiful stamps. But I do not agree with him when he says a stamp issued by Pakistani postal authorities on the Karachi Gymkhana Club does not have an international attraction for collectors.

\"\"KG as it is known, is a landmark in the city of Karachi and a city is known by its landmarks. Just a few days ago Mr. Anil Pujara presented to PhilaMirror picture post cards on Ahmedabad. They depict the landmarks as well as architectural heritage of the city. There have been Indian issues on landmarks.

Clubs have been a theme for collectors and countries issue commemoratives on them. Karachi Gymkhana Club is one of the oldest clubs in Asia. Founded in 1886 the gym offers a number of facilities and services like tennis, badminton, squash, cricket. It also has a swimming pool, sauna bath, snooker room, T.V room, jogging track, library etc.  and has over 45,000 members. Cricket matches that were played and musical concerts were organized there. I thnink just last year Rahat Fateh Ali Khan enthralled a huge crowd in the KGC premises.

Karachi resembles Mumbai. Club or organization in every nook and corner are found in both the cities. The former has a zoo known as Gandhi Garden and also has clubs like Karachi Boat Club, Karachi Boat Club, Sind Club, Karachi Golf Club, Agha Khan Gymkhana, Civil Aviation Club while the former has Hindu Gymkhana; Parsi Gymkhkana, Islami Gymkhana, etc. Mumbai’s Fort area is in particularly known for the libraries.\"\"

Mr. Sandeep has rightly suggested that there should be a joint issue. Stamps are ambassadors of their respective countries, they travel freely and carry the message of goodwill. They bring strangers close and ties in amicable bonds. I do not agree with Mr. Garg that the two people are not on talking terms. Had it been so, we could not have seen comments of  Sarvshri Sandeep, Anil Pujara and Dinu, and of course  Shri Garg himself who feels the pinch of rivalry. Exchanges are there between the two peoples  – in particular cultural and literary – and that is a glaring example of the bond in the subcontinent. A few months ago we hosted the youngest foreign minister from Pakistan and the Indian media praised her deliberations with Mr. S. M. Krishna, the Indian minister of external affairs. Bilateral relations will lead to joint issues one day. The most important factor is the governments on both the sides should realize that real development is difficult without having peaceful relationship between the two countries.  A few years ago when the BJP was in power, veteran journalist Mr. M.J. Akbar had interviewed Mr. Yeshwant Sinha, then Minister of External Affairs. And on Indo-Pak relations Mr. Sinha in very clear terms said that two neighbours can never remain enemies for a long time. The barriers need to be broken by the governments of the two countries.

And the latest news that India and Pakistan have agreed to ease decades of visa restrictions is certainly the most welcomed and constructive step for the two people.  The two countries’ joint working group finalized a new draft visa agreement in New Delhi on October 14, 2011 after months of negotiations and consultations.Partition of six decades is now a farce, especially when we claim to be living in a global village. Berlin Wall fell many years ago; Koreans are meeting; Chinese and Taiwanese are reaping fruits of exchanges; Europeans travel freely from one point to another extreme point without any barriers, what then prevents we in the subcontinent and reap the fruits of common identical and  interlinked practices from religions to languages to cultures and customs we have? Six decades of partition has not deterred the people and matrimonial alliances that take place between children of the two people blows up every design.

However, I welcome Mr. Zaidi’s suggestion on stamps on worst epidemic threat of dengue. It will serve two purposes, i.e. earning for the country and public campaign against the epidemic.With regard to Sandeep’s question about joint issues, my understanding is that joint issues are released on the conclusion of a bilateral agreement between two countries. India Post released many joint issues. I reiterate my suggestion of a India-Saudi joint issue. The ties between two countries have been extremely good with the visit of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah\’s visit to India in January 2006.

King Abdullah is the first Saudi king to visit India in 51 years and was the guest of honour at Republic Day celebrations. Our Honourable Prime Minister Mr. Manmohan Singh visited Saudi Arabia in February this year.According to Wikipedia: “A joint issue is the release of stamps or postal stationary by two or more countries to commemorate the same topic, event or person of relevance to both countries. Joint issues typically have the same first day of issue   and their design is often similar or identical, except for the identification of country and value.”

 

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16 Responses to Why Not India-Pakistan Joint Issue?

  1. Sandeep says:

    Dear Mirza ji,
    I am delighted to see another nice article by you and also thankful for supporting the idea of India-Pak joint issue.
    However, I am a bit sad, not to have any views from Mr. Zaidi on this. I would request him to please express his feelings and also perhaps induce more fellow philatelists from Pakistan to post on PhilaMirror.
    Thanks and Regards.

  2. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    Our God of Singing Great Mohd. Rafi died some 30 years ago. Fortunately Pakistan has the God of Ghazals-Mehndi Hasan,but he somehow manages not to visit India-Why ?? The LIST goes on and on & on… Have a Jt. issue of Indo-Pak stamps only after a one-day cricket series of 5 matches in India/Pakistan and please print 3.0 million stamps in place of the 3 lac normal print. Otherwise I won`t be able to have mine through PDA.

  3. anil kr pujara says:

    Recently India lost King of Gazalas Late Jagjit Singh who is equlally popular in the world n Great popular Singer from Pakistan Ghulam Ali visited Mumbai on the ocassion to pay his respects to the departed soul. That reflects the common human sentiments then why both Govts are not understanding n appreciating this.

  4. N.A. Mirza says:

    Dear S/S Sandeep & Garg:

    Thank you for your appreciation and do not bother about Mr Zaidi’s silence. It is said that silence is the best virtue.
    With regard to Shri Garg’s views on Mahdi Hasan not visiting India. Mahdi Hasan Saheb did visit India in the past, he even visited to his native place, concerts were held in some parts of India, including Mumbai where a bitter experience was experienced not only by him & his team but we Indians too. The bitter experience perhaps discouraged him. Also, for the past many Mahdi Saheb has been keeping well and does not sing in concerts even in Pakistan. Today we have to be contented with what he already has given to the music world and I think thats more than sufficient to enjoy music. Late Naushad Saheb once sid that Mahdi Saheb gave a new dimension to ghazal singing.
    I may point out here that even Ghulam Ali too perhaps had bitter experience singing during his visit to India. However, Adnan Sami is very much loved and popular in India and this is evident from his appearance as one of the judges in a TV programme to choose a singing talent that concluded recently.

    N.A. Mirza

  5. N.A. Mirza says:

    Resending with corrections and with a request to discard the earlier version.

    Dear S/S Sandeep & Garg:

    Thank you for your appreciation and do not bother about Mr Zaidi’s silence. It is said that silence is the best virtue.
    With regard to Shri Garg’s views on Mahdi Hasan not visiting India. Mahdi Hasan Saheb did visit India in the past, he even visited his native place, concerts were held in some parts of India, including Mumbai where a bitter experience was experienced not only by him & his team but we Indians too. The bitter experience perhaps discouraged him. Also, for the past many Mahdi Saheb has not been keeping well and does not sing in concerts even in Pakistan. Today we have to be contented with what he already has given to the music world and I think thats more than sufficient to enjoy music. Late Naushad Saheb once sid that Mahdi Saheb gave a new dimension to ghazal singing.
    I may point out here that even Ghulam Ali Saheb too perhaps had bitter experience singing during his visit to India. However, Adnan Sami is very much loved and popular in India and this is evident from his appearance as one of the judges in a TV programme to choose a singing talent that concluded recently.

    N.A. Mirza

  6. Sandeep says:

    Dear Mirza Ji,
    It is true that – ‘The sound of silence is golden’.
    Also many times ‘no comment’ is a remarkable comment in itself.
    I also agree with Garg Ji that, if it ever happens, then Indo-Pak joint issue is definitely going to be a big hit at least in the Indian philately. And yes, then again may be we dont get the stamps from PDA, like the Krishnadevaraya MS!! Hahaha. We bring it upon ourselves, so should not complain!
    Anyway, hope to see this joint issue someday in life, while they still are in fashion of printing postage stamps for collectors like us.
    Have a nice Deepawali all.
    Regards.

  7. dr pradeep jain says:

    I appreciate this idea of joint issue, this is very unfortunate that we have joint issues with so many countries but not with our neighbours like SriLanks,Bangladesh,Pakistan & Nepal.So we should take this initiative and create a plateform for healthy discussion on this topic.

  8. N.A. Mirza says:

    Dear Sandeep and Dr. Jain and all readers of PhilaMirror
    My heartiest congragulations to you all on the auspicious occasion of DEEPAWALI – the Festival of Lights. Let the lit deeps or diyas – small clay lamps – triumph over every evil; let the Deepavali fireworks, worship, lights, and sweets fill our lives with light and feelings to care for every one.
    Let us be pessimists. Inshallah (God willing) there would be Indo-Pak joint issues. We have made a beginning, a platform has been created, let us strive and hope for something constructive any time.
    And Sandeep, please note that printing of stamps will continue. Despite internet and email facilities, people still write letters and mail them to their relatives, commercial establishments, governments officials and business partners, etc. People still enjoy writing letters to their nearest & dearest people. Internet World Stats statistics put internet users in Asia to 44%; Europe 22.7%; North America 13%; Latin America/Carribbean 10.3%; Africa 5.7%; Middle East 3.3%, and Oceana/Australia 1%. This said let me add that printed stamps have commercial value. Not only governments earn from them. Philatelic dealers not only earn, they prevail upon officials and bujy in bulk to sell them at rates they decide. A two way beneficial traffic continues and this has been reported in this forum by you, Pujara Saheb and others too. So decide by yourself if printing of stamps will end.
    Some years ago I had read a paper on philately here in Jeddah before a very selected and highly educated audience which consisted of journalists, economists, professors, etc . At the end the paper during a question/answer session, an economist asked me about the future of stamps in view of the email and sms facilities. I answered saying that stamps would continue to br printed and there would be no end to it and that internet, email users were just 35% of the total world population. The gentleman looked at me with a surprise – rather did not believe in what answered. But look at today’s statistics I gave above. It is still the same – rather less – today.
    Once again Happy Diwali to you all.

    N.A. Mirza

  9. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    Thanks for Season`s Greetings Sri N.A.Mirza Sahib. In my opinion
    cheap mobile services is even more inimical to the use of postage
    stamps than internet & E-mail as a one set of words is used
    when you talk that`s got nothing to do with when you write. And this
    SMS thing is done in such a hurried language that it has corrupted
    even their long writing skills.
    Young ones aged 20 plus have not written a letter in their life except for
    letter writing-as a subject in schools. Still lots of covers are still
    mailed by individuals containing applications for admissions/
    jobs etc. making the use of postage stamps a compulsory
    necessity.
    Moreover, Goverments make money out of philately and
    even more importantly stamps are cute ambassadors of
    nations that issue them.

  10. Sandeep says:

    Dear Dr. Jain,
    I thank you for the initiative. Here I write while Deewali crackers go-on, all over. Its both an auspicious and inspiring atmosphere!
    Coming to the point, I would request you to please mention some points you feel, as reasons for having a joint issue with another country, from the point of view of a philatelist.
    And then to propagate this healthy debate, perhaps we all should express our feelings on this.
    I feel the more good reasons we have, the stronger our case shall be. (I already see that, this is going to be an interesting discussion :-)
    Hope to hear from all of you who read this.

  11. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    If you agree not to disagree-good.
    If you can not afford to disagree even when you in fact disagree-better.
    If you do no share borders-the BEST.
    If you…etc. etc….
    One can have a Joint Issue just by agreeing to shake hands on a
    postage stamp-business like! No Problem.
    Has anything changed after the Indo-China Joint Issue?? I think not!
    One still can have a Jt. Issue even when you agree not to agree.
    As far as I am concerned Joint issues are almost always se-tenants,
    and like many stamp lovers I adore se-tenants.
    Long live Joint Issues.

  12. Anil kr Pujara says:

    This will increase interaction between the philatelists/ collectors of two countries. It will be the stepping stone for furthering the Relations of Both Countries.

  13. N.A. Mirza says:

    Very true

  14. Sandeep says:

    So in 2011 we saw,
    1. Pakistan – Russia friendship issue
    2. Pakistan – Iran joint issue and
    3. Pakistan – Thailand 60th Anniv. of dipl. rel. issue

    But why not India – Pakistan joint issue? (Sorry, I just echo here the topic of this article).

  15. dr pradeep jain says:

    I am very much hopeful that oneday will come when suddenly this news will flash that a joint issue will be issued and every collector from both countries will jump with this exciting news.We must try for this route of peace mission.

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