Philately in India:Hobby of Kings or Dealer\’s Paradise!

\"\"Philately is king of hobbies. Now it is a paradise of dealers in India. 

Every genuine philatelist is suffering with activities of dealers. As on today about 100 big stamp dealers are rigging in the country. They literally controll the entire realm of such a lovely hobby. As a result the whole hobby has now been turned in to an extremely business affair.

Let us take the most recent example of \”Raj Kumar Shukla Stamp\”. A dealer of Baroda offered 2000 sheets of this rare stamp on e-bay  with an amazing starting price of INR 30.00 lakh ( Rs. 03 Million)!

You can purchase a small 2 BHK flat in Gurgaon with that much amount.

\"\"This stamp of Raj Kumar Shukla was printed in 1 lakh quantity. It means that 8000 out of 1 lakh stamps are only with one person. How it is possible without undue help from inner circles ? This example is indicating towards the nexus of dealers and others including the postal authorities.

Today any philatelist can\’t get more than 1 or 2 sheets of  even normal stamps from bureau but it is highly surprising that how this dealer got success in getting 200 sheets?

Second thing, he is selling these rare stamps again in bulk, it means that next dealer will sell these sheets in 50 lakhs after few years to another dealer.

What is going on?

\"\"Now let us have another instance which is equally recent. Sheets of world classical \”Tamil Conference\” are available in the range of  INR 1200-1500 on e-bay, face value is just 200 Rs.

Dealers have actually hijacked almost all small post offices in search of this stamp. At many bureaus, these sheets are available but not for philatelists.

Now you know who is enjoying. Aren\’t You?

This is the time when responsible and senior philatelists should come and interfere.

Dealers should be checked. After all philately is a hobby and no body has right to turn it into a business. Senior philatelist may offer their old extra stock on reasonable prices. It will check dealers. Other option is to promote exchange stamps.

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50 Responses to Philately in India:Hobby of Kings or Dealer\’s Paradise!

  1. Anil Kr Pujara says:

    The concern is very genuine n needs to be addressed. The attempt to unite the genuine collectors n control the nefarious activities of dealers is commendable.

    • ajay gupta says:

      Dear anil pujara ji,

      I endorse your words and there should be an attempt to unite the genuine collectors and govt. should make some system for serious collectors at the resp. philatic centres so that each collector should have perfect information about each and every stamp ,deptt should supply all the material at on single point all over India phil..centres otherwise it creates chaos and attract hoarding of stamps among big dealers .

  2. Dear ,
    Website owner.
    I STARTED collecting stamps in year 1999 and turned my hobby to Investment from year 2001.
    I dont understand….If somebody is Investing in stamps …Why u worry ??
    For your kind information in US and UK,after Stock Mkt and Real Estate best Investment is Philately only.
    Once Government comes out with stamps or coins and they sell them, its upto public or collector to think if they want to buy it as Investment or Speculation or Hobby.
    I had Invested in RAJ KUMAR SHUKLA and buying since 2001…any problem from Rs.1000 it went upto 32k.
    What is the problem with anybody?
    If u want to Invest to Invest u Invest or just keep quite !!
    What Bullshit these Dealers and Senior collectors talks about Philately in India?
    Total population of India is more then 120 crore and u dont have 1 lac collectors since 1947 till this date in India.
    Why talk like Idiot……
    If u have 1 lac collectors in India (It means complete collection from 1947 till today all single stamp )
    if this thing happens then , u dont need dealer at all if stamp qty is 1 lac !!
    Why u people cry?
    Stamp hobby become WIDOWS Property and Investment will give u unexpected returns.
    Send me an mail any time……….will reply u
    Anirudh Sethi /Baroda

    • Siddhartha says:

      Anirudh,

      I understand your point. But, investment in stamps are done in classic rarity issues. Pre-Independence. Or Some very early post independence. Like the Rs 10 Gandhi. The archaeological definitive series. A classic postally mourning cover (if you know what that is).

      You are living in a fools paradise of investing in stamps that are produced in millions and sold in millions. It is a subject of big laughter. I go to the GPO to see fools like you buying stamps madly and having no clue what they are doing. But it is your money. You are welcome to invest in cowdung or horseshit. Your choice.

      Secondly people like you probably do not know how to store mint stamps in tropical climate like our country so that the paper does not turn brown or the gum does not get spotted in time (which evidently will). I see people running with 1970 – 1980 stamp sheets turned brown to sell desparately. I suggest them to use those as wallpapers for their house.

      Artificial shortage is temporary. Every fool and idiot knows that.

      You are true about the unexpected return. But might be the other way as well. Unexpected. You have really no clue what you are talking about. In USA and UK all stamps from 1950 sell under the face value because at some time fools like you bought sheets and sheets of stamps for investing. And now they are flooding in the market. Another big laugh.

      You need a lesson in stamps first then you should think about investing.

      Take care Mr. Aniruddh.
      ============================================
      Finally, the postal dept. and dealer nexus will end if we collectors put up a fight against it. No one is sparable and these half educated so called dealers can be taught a lesson by putting forth the whole matter infront of the ministry or directly to the PM.

      What is happening Mr Manmohan? When will this scam be treated and treated for good?

    • Dinu says:

      Dear Mr. Sethi,

      It seems that comment in the post has stirred a hornet’s nest and affected you personally.

      Anyhow, it seems in moment of anger you have lost your cool and many statement made by you makes no sense. In an open forum decency of debate should be kept is a primary as well as cardinal rule.

    • SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

      Your attitude towards philately might sound harsh to most in
      in India. But when you read E-mail letters etc.sent by the likes of
      Stanley Gibbons etc. one gets the feeling that these venerable
      institutions too are now wearing a T-Shirt sporting ‘HOW TO PROFIT FROM STAMPS’ both on the front & the back.

    • Aayush says:

      To Mr. Anirudh Sethi,

      First of all, please mind your language. There are senior philatelists here who began collecting stamps even before you could pee in your nappies.

      2ndly, Just because you read somewhere that UK & US are recommending philately as an investment, then please read the complete article. That investment is mostly (underline mostly) for stamps before 1950s. Not for modern stamps.

      3rdly, if you think by hoarding stamps you will become a millionaire in future then dont live in a illusionated world. Its fools like you, who think by buying stamps in bulk quantity is going to fetch you money, then dont. Its people like you who disgrace not only philately but business as a whole statement as well. Please dont display your upbringing here. The language you used here shows what values your parents have taught you. So, dont display your mannerisms here. You can certainly use this in front of the government officials, who may not let you buy stamps.

      And yes, many people I know buy hoards of stamps, after 5-6 months or a year of their issuing. Thats when you can buy them as an investment.

      Today prices of many stamps have gone down such as Sai Baba, Madhubala, etc.

      Just control your emotions here, show some respect and maturity and most importantly: Learn something about philately before someone as senior as me decides to slap and shoo away the flies inside your rotten brains.

      May God show you light.
      Reply

      • Dinu says:

        Dear Ayushji,
        I agree with your emotional outburst.

        However, dear have you not contradicted yourself? Sure the person has no mannerism or might not have a good upbringing but don’t we show some restrain before launching on a verbal assault? Else where and what is our upbringing?

        One more point , if you look at the english composition you might know that due to emotional distress the other guy might have lost all control .

        With my limited knowledge in English, which is my limitation and not his, I could not understand many sentence from that offensive post though I was forced to ask him to maintain mannerism.

        Though there was promise of replying he nver bothered to reply then why else we (like may be I am doing right not) try to keep the issue alive and give undue importance.

        Thanks

        • Aayush says:

          Dear Dinuji,

          I have nothing against people if they are barking to themselves, but I feel if you dont control such people now, they keep getting motivation and encouragement to go one step ahead and make life miserable for others. I am 48 years young. Till date I have never got angry on my children nor raised my hand on them. And they know I can be very short tempered, but they know how to talk to their elders not because of their upbringing but their conscience. Such people dont have a soul forget conscience.

          Coming back to philately, its a hobby and not a business. If it was a business, then collectors like us would have ceased to exist. It has a child’s emotions attached to it. The excitement of seeing a stamp on letter or GPO’s make you a child..

          So, let the innocence in this hobby prevail and not make it a fish market

    • Amit Masih says:

      The point raised by you is some what valid as the collector need just one stamp or may be five in case he is doing bulk/4 and one FDC and one used so overall a collectors consumption is just 7 stamps. It is good if everyone gets all the stamps from bureau and all the issues starting from independence issue and Gandhi series including Rs 10 Gandhi. Alas bureau does not do that as they cannot keep the stamps as collector do so they sell only during 3 months period as the preservation, upkeep inventory and accounting problems. Then the question comes who will keep those stamps for future generations. One option is that collector supply to fellow collector. But the collector is also helpless as he only have those 7 stamps. Now in these situation volunteers are required who will acquire through their own funds and sell to future generation at face value? Maybe 5% premium for administrative expenses. Are their any volunteer?
      ????………?????

      2. After that all the bureau should have contact details of the person who is doing the public service.
      3. The person is responsible for all the damages to stamps while the stamps are in custody.
      4. To be open to public auditing for inspection.

      Alas there are no takers for this thankless job? Are there?

      I am sure I could not attempt to get the stamps I need without the help of dealers. While interacting with them I also came to know about the expenses incurred for the preservation and I have also seen dealers who lost considerable stamp worth due to climatic and environmental factors.

      There is one more way of acquiring stamps using time machine (Science Fiction) through which a collector can go to the release date and get the required items from the counter (but take only 7 as per the need)

      Anyone in the first category???

      Anyone in the second category???

      Amit kr Masih
      akmasih@yahoo.com

  3. Akash says:

    Hi,
    I was just wondering if you have Raj Kumar Shukla full sheets ( White Gum).
    I would be interested in buying. Please do contact me ( email- gargaki13@gmail.com)
    Thanks

  4. prannay chhibber says:

    well the above mentioned problem is really growing now-a-days,i being an incharge philatelic beuro Agra HO has many instances in my three month old service where dealers come to me n ask for a fairly good number of sheets…. specially of world classical tamil conference…… but i being a philatelist and lover of this hobby assures all that as far as possible i will maintain the proper distribution of stamps from Agra philatelic bureau.

    its good time for philatelist to unite with the beuro incharges n put a fullstop on this before it becomes crisis.

    • Rahul says:

      Hi,
      Could you please share the procedure of opening a philatelic account in Agra HO as i am unable to come to Agra?
      Could you please share the any telephone number of Agra Philatelic bureau?

      Regrads,
      Rahul

    • Dinu says:

      Dear Mr. Chhiber,
      I personally congratulate you for your honesty and boldness even being part of the system.

      You have lot of moral courage to accept and admit the rot prevailing in the system.

      People like you are rare and becoming rarer day by day.

      God bless you with happiness and cream of the crops .

      Best regards

    • DIYA JAIN says:

      thank sir you do you your job good

  5. M. Bhatt says:

    Let me narrate my experience at one of Bangalore’s important Philetely Bureau. When I went there for buying a new release stamp. I was given a visiting card of a few dealers and was told to go the dealers directly. What are the GPO officials doing ? Clearly it is the day of the Dealers.

  6. Udit says:

    Dear fellow collectors

    It is really funny and surprising to know that people are going to GPO to buy stamps (full sheets / blocks/ singles) whatever and are refused and thus they curse all the dealers for this…….

    The best way is simply to open a PD a/c along with your requirements. There is no way that any Philatelic bureau incharge will refuse to open the account. Simply set you requirements like i have for 5 sheets of every issue. I dont need to run around to gather 5 sheets or any particular stamp (like tamil conference in recent issues). The PD account order will be delivered…it is a compulsion for the bureau incharge ….

    so plz stop cursing the dealers and be a smart collectors and get stamps through PD account instead of buying from dealers…..

    • Dinu says:

      Dear Sir,

      Thanks for your enlightening reply.

      Surely PDAC is a perfect way. But the lacunaes are
      – It is dispatched once in two months. I am yet to receive my May – June dispatches – two months over due.
      – Dispatched packet may not have quanitity I have ordered. Like Kirshnadeva Raya miniature I got 2 whereas I have standing instruction for 4 MS of each issue.
      – I have given order for 2 block of 4 (any – I mean not traffice light) – but I got strip of 8 for one issue. confront the department – best case they express their helplessness or oversight. Worst you face rude behaviour. When I became rude after tolerating three times and went to postmaster one person took softer attitude to sort out the issue. Is it not a ploy? they keep on forgetting that they are our servant. (Public servant).
      this is just for your information as my experience sharing and not to strat a debate.

      Regards and best of luck

  7. Santanu Panigrahi says:

    Hobby is for pleasure time. Investment is for future prospect. First you decide what you want. Hobby or investment. If it is hobby then concentrate in one theme and go ahead. If you are investing then think as a businessman. As suggested by Udit open a P.D. A/C an start investing. Dealer is source of collection of your choice item. If you are getting a rare item and paying some more price is also not bad. Because within few years the price will hike more than expected. The moral of the story investment in Philately is not bad. The return is sure and secred. So, enjoy collecting stamps and stop cursing other.
    Happy Diwali.

  8. Viswas Menon says:

    Good points raised by all above including some dealers. Every one has their point of view…the collectors their point, the dealers theirs and the Postal Department theirs.

    In the past the hobby took an Investment turn only when the stamp became old or antiquated. Now that is not the point..even newly released stamps are being made scarce by some dealers. Their is no problem with dealers making money..its ok..but cornering large quanitities and then indulging in black marketing the same is inapporpiate.
    The commomerative stamps are being issued in limited quantities and if these get cornered in bulk then an artifical dearth is created and as per the ecconomic principles of demand and supply..the perceived value of the stamp goes up.
    Many times, even the Philately Account Holders with the post offices don’t get certain issues or Miniature Sheets or Brochure or FDCs. When inquiry is made, the reply is these came in short supply and we could not send every one.
    I had the occasion to visit the Mumbai GPO Philately Department some months back. I was surprised to see the lethargic attitude of the staff there towards philatelists. Just a fee days before my visit,the Astrological signs stamps had been releases. I was surprised to note that some of the signs stamps were not available. And..I had to buy what was available and…affix them on three FDCs and get them cancelled with special cancellation marks..and the staff there made me shell out a good Rs.50/- extra for getting the stamps cancelled. However, I could make out that some dealers were being give royal treatment in an adjoining room..may be because they grease the staff’s palms.
    It is such instances that deter many collectors.
    The department could have a system of rationing the stamps particularly certain important stamps of personalities which are sought after by not just collectors but fans and devotees. (Like the Alphosa stamp was in great demand in a small post office like Madikeri as many Christian devotees sought these, the Raj Kumar stamp release saw a lot of fans who are not philatelists crowd the Bangalore GPO, The MS Subbalaxmi issue saw a number of her fans seek the stamps at many post offices)
    I personally feel that a joint meeting between the philatelists, traders and the Postal authorities can sort out many issues!
    Think it over!

  9. abhay tiku says:

    Pretty well put Viswas.

    The dilemma about being a dealer is whether to be a trader or a proponent of the fantastic pursuit of Knowledge that Philately is. For a hobby that inculcates patience, perseverance and an eye for detail the whole “dealer” based propagation is making it lose its sheen. We have to keep in mind that the reason that “stamp collecting” evolved over centuries is because of conscientious work of experts we now call “philatelists”. Unfortunately, “stamp collecting” has taken over “philately” somewhere along the line and all that you get to hear is the “investment” centric banter by people who can’t even detail why and how is a rare stamp really “rare”.

    For the last few issues that are garnering most of the price spots (Shukla, Begum Akhtar, Waterbirds, Guru Granth Sahib etc.) we don’t even have serious and academic literature in place yet.

    I don’t really care at what price a “dealer” sells his wares, its the sickening attitude (and language) they carry along with them that disgusts me.

    Examples can be found in this post itself :) !!

    Philately forever.

  10. I have one full sheet of Rajkumar Shukla stamp. I like to sell it for money or exchange for Indian Military Postage Stamps 1913-21, CEF KG V, SG C26/34 (1 1/2 a to Re1).

  11. Krista Mary Joseph,London says:

    Consider philately as an investment.All one has to do is just buy stamps @ face value & hold . Prices of Indian & Chinese stamps in the Filately market are escalating than other countries after year 2000.
    Gone are those days, when people regards stamp collection as a hobby.I’d say, it’s a waste of money , not time, if it’s an hobby.
    I have seen many a people buying new thematic stamps at exhorbitant prices,regardless of their facevalue . They have to wait atleast a decade,for their stamps, to come in terms with genuine market prices.
    Take the case of foreign Gandhi stamps…. those new stamps are being sold at very high prices in the first year of release, eventually one can procure at a low price if u can wait 3 or 4 years, down the lane.
    Speculation in Indian filately , in certain cases, proved to be a failure. Look what happened to Sai Baba(sold even for Rs 2000 & more,in the first 3 months of their release…..now sold for Rs 350),Madhubala(sold for Rs 1750, current price around 450),Aids,Tamil Conference(sold for 1800+, now around for 350)etc etc.
    Whatever, keep ur heads high….Indian Philately, as a whole is rollicking.Do India proud.

  12. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    Oh, how badly we cancell our stamps daily. The black ink used is of the worst possible quality, and nothing can be read from the cancellations done, not even date. It destroys stamps. It only ends up helping the MINT baazar.

  13. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    It seems from the stamps issued in 2011, Krishnadevaraya is not being
    sent to Philatelic Deposit Account Holders. The two I know of are
    Delhi & Bangalore. Is somebody cornering the stamp?

    • Rahul says:

      yeah, i got 5 copies of krishnadevaraya ms. thanks

      • Dinu says:

        Dear GargJi,

        I do not know. Only thing I know it has vanished mysteriously from all north India GPO + HO philately counters.

        Against my standing instruction of 4 MS of each issue given at my PDAC I just got 2 MS.

        Surely someone with vested interest have made a proper connection somewhere. How many MS of Rathajatra and Krishnadevraya was printed does anyone know?

  14. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    Dear Rahul, Open indiapost.gov.in . Click on philately.
    Click on open a deposit account. Download application form of 2 pages.
    Fill,sign & send to the desired GPO/HO, enclosing your draft, of course.

    • rahul says:

      Thanks Sunil,
      Could you please suggest me which one is best Philatelic Bureau in providing good service in your opinion?
      Thanks again.

  15. rahul says:

    thanks

  16. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    Stampdealers swear by Mumbai GPO. I too am having a PDA there
    for the last 30 years. Unfortunately, the quality of their service has
    gone down rather fast. New Delhi is plain bad. Kolkata is good but
    they happen to charge an insurance fee on the cover sent amounting to
    6-10% of the value of the material . The paradox is that while a PDA
    is still the best option to receive stamps regularly but at GPOs the quality of keeps on changing rather abruptly. Recently I found
    someone praising Agra. Who knows?

    service keeps on changing with

  17. Aayush says:

    To Mr. Anirudh Sethi,

    First of all, please mind your language. There are senior philatelists here who began collecting stamps even before you could pee in your nappies.

    2ndly, Just because you read somewhere that UK & US are recommending philately as an investment, then please read the complete article. That investment is mostly (underline mostly) for stamps before 1950s. Not for modern stamps.

    3rdly, if you think by hoarding stamps you will become a millionaire in future then dont live in a illusionated world. Its fools like you, who think by buying stamps in bulk quantity is going to fetch you money, then dont. Its people like you who disgrace not only philately but business as a whole statement as well. Please dont display your upbringing here. The language you used here shows what values your parents have taught you. So, dont display your mannerisms here. You can certainly use this in front of the government officials, who may not let you buy stamps.

    And yes, many people I know buy hoards of stamps, after 5-6 months or a year of their issuing. Thats when you can buy them as an investment.

    Today prices of many stamps have gone down such as Sai Baba, Madhubala, etc.

    Just control your emotions here, show some respect and maturity and most importantly: Learn something about philately before someone as senior as me decides to slap and shoo away the flies inside your rotten brains.

    May God show you light.

  18. Aayush says:

    PS, I need the Tamil Nadu stamp in 2 nos. so if anyone can send me 2 copies, please let me know.

  19. Aayush says:

    Pranayji, Dinuji,

    May your tribe incrase:-):-)

  20. R.K.MISHRA says:

    Dear philatelists,
    the whole issue seems to be of a hoarder and not a phila-or vender so his language , reaction are quite natural and shows anger of a hoarder and it is advisable not to react over.
    1. If the dispatch received from Inada Post to Bureaus ,it is kept for P.D. Account holders (ACCEPT LIMITED NO. OF ISSUE) and for counter sale and then it is sent to respective for counter sale so that it can be available(these are not being done miraculously) to remote Philatelists and postage by the common people so that one can get it for collection the first methodology of collecting Stamps.
    2.Start valuing used stamp with envelops the tell their own story.
    3.Control over the distribution/supply of India Post be taken up with respective or the apex body through R.T.I.(WHO WILL DO)

    A NUMBER OF THINGS ARE THERE TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION DO NOT SPOIL YOU ENERGY IN SMALL THINGS
    IN 2005-2006 A REQUEST WAS MADE TO INCREASE THE PRINTING OF MINIATURES AND WAS DONE AND PHILATELIST GETTING
    IT. CONDEMNED THE SLOGAN ” PHILATELY FOR PLEASURE AND PROFIT”

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  22. Vivek Sukhani says:

    The only way the dealers(who are nothing but the black-marketeers) can be reined in, is when the Department decides to increase the issue size…

    Think about it, it takes just 20 lacs to corner the whole issue of a stamp( assuming the normal case of 0.4 million stamps as the issue size and the value per stamp to be Rs.5). Now, India has a growing number of rich people who can easily hoard stamps, given that how much little amount is required. So, either the issue size should be rationalised( given the ‘demand’), or the price per stamp needs to be adjusted upwards. Its time that the Department of Posts think seriously about it to allow genuine philatelists to continue with their hobby. Its mind blowing that collectors are unable to get recent issues for their collection because of this rampant menace called dealers. This phenomenon of creating artificial scarcity is putting off the budding philatelists….the consequences of which will be felt by the dealers in the years to come.

    Sure, someone wants to play it like an investment, should do so in a scientific manner. Before hoarding up whatever comes your way, first figure out what will be in demand in future, say Errors, Oddities, Freaks, thematic collections like Children’s day, joint issues etc.. Otherwise, just as in stock markets, this temptation of making a kill in a short term, more often than not, leads to one’s downfall.

  23. R.K.MISHRA,LALA says:

    “The only way the dealers(who are nothing but the black-marketeers) can be reined in, is when the Department decides to increase the issue size…”
    Sir this action has been taken early in case of issuance of miniatures by I.P. and a good result has been reflected.
    About the rest of your problem a few basic things are -Numbers of issue of commutative stamps needed.
    The issue /release system of stamps should go to every post offices so that it comes through public issued postal stationery and distant plaltelists can get that
    Think about it, it takes just 20 lacs to corner the whole issue of a stamp( assuming the normal case of 0.4 million stamps as the issue size and the value per stamp to be Rs.5). Now, India has a growing number of rich people who can easily hoard stamps, given that how much little amount is required. So, either the issue size should be rationalised( given the ‘demand’), or the price per stamp needs to be adjusted upwards. Its time that the Department of Posts think seriously about it to allow genuine philatelists to continue with their hobby. Its mind blowing that collectors are unable to get recent issues for their collection because of this rampant menace called dealers. This phenomenon of creating artificial scarcity is putting off the budding philatelists….the consequences of which will be felt by the dealers in the years to come.

    Sure, someone wants to play it like an investment, should do so in a scientific manner. Before hoarding up whatever comes your way, first figure out what will be in demand in future, say Errors, Oddities, Freaks, thematic collections like Children’s day, joint issues etc.. Otherwise, just as in stock markets, this temptation of making a kill in a short term, more often than not, leads to one’s downfall.

  24. R.K.MISHRA,LALA says:

    PLEASE CAN CELL MY EARLIER POST WHICH ERRONEOUSLY
    SENT.
    Sir this action has been taken early in case of issuance of miniatures by I.P. and a good result has been reflected.
    About the rest of your problem a few basic things are -Numbers of issue of commutative stamps needed.
    The issue /release system of stamps should go to every post offices so that it comes through public issued postal stationery and distant philatelists can get that. That net work of distribution system be revised.
    The philatelist/stamp collectors/thematic makers must know that used stamps are also tells their own story with stationery,using used stamps should be encouraged even at jury level because u.p.u does not disapproves used one, the massage should go.
    I KNOW THE PEOPLE HORDING MATERIALS CANT SELL THAT IN PREMIUM RISES,NOR CAN GET MARKET.

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  26. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    Of course dealers have to mind their business because they are in
    it to make some profit. But the guys at Philatelic Bureaux do not
    mind theirs-which is to serve the stamp lovers. By not doing their
    work fully honestly public servants at post offices are harming
    philately.

  27. Sureshkumar Baghele says:

    Today philately is making busines by philatelist,due to loss of moral character in society .Therefore in rural area person not easily get philately stamp. My problem is same. India Post make a policy for distribtion philately stamps

  28. R.PURUSHOTHAMAN says:

    I think philately as a hobby is slowly losing its stream. In India I think there are more dealers than collectors for hobby. Dealers thrive at the cost of genuine collectors. It is because of the Bureaux where ordinary philatelist cannot get anything. It seems it is true for all or atleast most of the philatelic Bureaus. They dont serve the account holders. As a member of more than one Bureau on behalf of our group I find how hard it is to get our requirement. Hyderabad Bureau for example invoiced the materials and deducted amount from the account but never sent the materials. It happened more than once. I even took the matter to higher level also. But it was of no avail. Some of the Bureaux do commit errors and it is inevitable. But they are genuine. In another Bureau Miniatures were shown in the invoice but not sent. When I informed they readily accepted and assured me that they would look after the matter. They behaved very politely and in the next few days despatched the Minatures. But the major problem with some of the Bureaus are they dont send the materials as per our requirement. From Chennai Bureau we dont get the sheets as per our requirement for some issues. Incase of Viviekananda, Biodiversity 2012, India Israel etc just one sheet was received against 21. Since it is a group requirment entire collection of our members for the years have gone waste. Some of us has to buy it from the market paying exorbitant price. In the particular Bureau sheets are never sold across the counter. Even blocks are also not sold across the counter. Then how philatelists can collect their requirement? So far Trivandrum Bureau serve better and supply materials as per requirement. But we cannot open account in all the Bureaux. As such all the Bureaux should display their receipt and stock on daily basis. Besides they should ensure the materials are sent to account holders as per their requirement without curtailment. Besides the supply of materials to the Bureaux should also be in time and in required quantities. Because unless the Bureaux receive the required supply they cannot fulfill the demand.

  29. SUNIL KUMAR GARG says:

    Bangalore G.P.O. I hold an account there. The last supply they made is
    dated 2nd May 2013. The credit Balance of more than Rs.5,000.- is
    lying there for more than a year now. Sleep Bangaluru SLEEP.

    What a beauty.

  30. R.PURUSHOTHAMAN says:

    In our group we also have account in the Bureau. We find the service of the Bureau is really excellent. They despatch with focus on accounts individually. In all other Bureaux we know if money is not available while despatching for the particular month you cannot get the curtailed material. But incase of Bangalore Bureau when the material is curtailed for want of fiunds when you replenish your account they send the curtailed materials also. This is our experience. Besides whenever we ring they respond positively. The case cited above is definitely very rare and due to some oversight which is inevitable, when dealing with numerous accounts with less manpower. It is better to contact them over phone and they will respond positively. They may be contacted in one of these numbers: 08022850058 or 08022863434.

  31. Even I endorse the views expressed above. One of the best managed Bureaus in India n ofcourse I must say TOUCH WOOD.Compliments to all staff particularly Bureau Incharge who is heading such a team.

  32. Nitin D. Karwa says:

    Hi

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